Don't Trust MODS.. For real..

[KILLCREW3]

I posted 2 new threads 2 days ago about how im gettin scammed by someone who a mod said was 100% trusty.. Balru was the guy MALMIS "the script master" said was trusty.. i start telling people about this and my password got changed.. the threads were deleted (not by me) and the thread where Balru was selling the account was deleted.. good thing i took screenshots of it to prove it was there.. not like anyone really gives a fuck on this forum right?

[xHellsx]

Post your screenshots

(Including the trade..)

Which E-mail address did they use? Probably a fake one, am I right?

[Kodeox]

Post your screenshots

(Including the trade..)

Which E-mail address did they use? Probably a fake one, am I right?

Doesnt make sence,how could they be able to delete his threads with a "fake" E-mail??

[raoul]

its easy, perhaps its malmis sub account, and then he just delete's it with the mod account:o. im not saying it is because malmis is trustworthy in my eye's.

[AnnoyedCustomer]

i can confirm that malmis posted in the thread of that guy selling the 290 ek claiming he would be his rl and 100% trustworthy.

[Blade]

I dont know whats going on here But i can confirm that Mods Can not change passwords only blackd can

[AnnoyedCustomer]

I dont know whats going on here But i can confirm that Mods Can not change passwords only blackd can

who all can delete threads? cuz its fucking suspicious that the sale-advertising thread of balru is deleted like it had never existed to apparently destroy any sort of proofs.

[raoul]

i did see that malmis sayd the guy was trustworhty yea:o

[Tony32]

i can confirm that malmis posted in the thread of that guy selling the 290 ek claiming he would be his rl and 100% trustworthy.

Yepp, I saw it aswell.. True story!

[Jagex]

I saw the post as well....Looks like Blade needs to put an ass whooping on someone.

[Darren]

look at kanej and balru

exact same char promoted by malmis

balru's post got deleted but its basically a carbon copy

[Kodeox]

That is what I call "Power Abusing" haha xDDD
Well,sad to know we can't even trust mods o.O

[KILLCREW3]

Post your screenshots

(Including the trade..)

Which E-mail address did they use? Probably a fake one, am I right?



i dont see any point in postin the ss of the thread since all these people saw that malmis did post that the kid was 100% trusty, and obviously its gone now, balru used the email henke_90@live.se, and it said his name was henrik axelsson(from sweden). pretty suspicous right? and the 2 threads i posted here and on trade about it were deleted also, and if only blackd can change the passwords then must of been him, since ive had the same password for quite a while.. and dont think i would get it wrong 5 times in a row

[KILLCREW3]

look at kanej and balru

exact same char promoted by malmis

balru's post got deleted but its basically a carbon copy

yeah.. http://www.blackdtools.net/showthread.php?t=50534

its almost the same exact thing balru said and malmis confirms it saying the same exact thing

, but when u go on malmis page it sais Last Activity: 03-22-2010 08:34 .but he posted that both balru and the other kid were 100% trusty neer the end of may, (5-22-2010)

im willing to bed its just malmis using his "power" to scam people, like me since i thought u could trust someone like that...obviously not and its bullshit, and this is the truth since why would i have a reason to lie? i got fuckd over and just want other people to be more cautious, even of MODS

[Satanás]

I'm investigating it.

[Razoor]

I'm investigating it.

I just made a thread about it on mods board.

@ thread starter. if malmis did this he should suffer like any other member. and trust me if its true and he stills get backed up by the mod team i will ask to be removed as mod and fight against this.

[klusbert]

I really feel sorry for this guy..

I and also feel a lot of anger that a high respected member uses his position to verify another member, when he is a scammer.

I really hope that malmis had no idea about that he was suppose to scam him, and I also hope that malmis is doing what he can to make this right again.

Damn sweds ;)


@offtopic
If blackd needs a new mod I am really willing to try, I'm 21 years old and I think I got allot of tibia experience and some good programming experience.
I'm also online on blackd's forum almost every day, and I'm trying to help alot. :)

And I also think that a lot users find me useful but that is only a guess.

Sorry for being oftopic

[Razoor]

I realy feel sorry for this guy..

I and also feel alot of anger that a high respected member uses his position to verify another member, when he is a scammer.

I realy hope that malmis had no idea about that he was supose to scam him, and I also hope that malmis is doing what he can to make this right again.

Damn sweds ;)

If malmis didn't cover for him he shouldn't have removed the thread after balru was accused for scamming..

[weeper]

just my opinion: I used to talk a lot to malmis on msn and he doesnt seem like a guy who would do that kind of stuff he got the respect he has by working hard making scripts for everyone. he wouldnt have a reason to do this and i would like to see some proof about so serious accusations

[xHellsx]

FOR THA RECORD

I posted before anyone else so;

I didn't see the thread so I didn't know if it was real

this is why I asked for proof of it haha.

Rest is history

[KILLCREW3]

just my opinion: I used to talk a lot to malmis on msn and he doesnt seem like a guy who would do that kind of stuff he got the respect he has by working hard making scripts for everyone. he wouldnt have a reason to do this and i would like to see some proof about so serious accusations



yeah thats what everyone was telling me that malmis is so trusty and highly respected. thats the only reason why i sent the kid money for the account.. i asked a lot of people believe me.. and everyone said the same thing that i wont get scammed if malmis confirms someone is trusty... yep.

[KILLCREW3]

I just made a thread about it on mods board.

@ thread starter. if malmis did this he should suffer like any other member. and trust me if its true and he stills get backed up by the mod team i will ask to be removed as mod and fight against this.



thank you, i really appreciate that someone actually has some ambition to do something about this, and thanks to everyone who confirmed they saw it and now it just disappeared

[Darren]

Salute to razoor and santanas

[Crossfire]

I saw the thread... in fact.. Killcrew had PM'd me about it, and I told him Malmis is trustworthy...

dunno what's goin on how.


OffTopic: Woah, santanas and Razoor are mods 0.0 congratz dudes.

[Razoor]

I saw the thread... in fact.. Killcrew had PM'd me about it, and I told him Malmis is trustworthy...

dunno what's goin on how.


OffTopic: Woah, santanas and Razoor are mods 0.0 congratz dudes.

Haha i'v been mode for months now :p but thanks anyways..

[Crossfire]

I've been gone a while. Lol..

Anyways.. back to topic..


If I was able to get on msn, I'd try to contact Malmis.. But I can't, So I won't

[Blade]

If malmis didn't cover for him he shouldn't have removed the thread after balru was accused for scamming..

I found the thread it wasnt removed

[KILLCREW3]

I found the thread it wasnt removed



there were two threads of malmis confirming that someone was trusty, 2 different names selling the same character, the one i got scammed on was when malmis confirmed that the name "balru" was trustworthy, and it is no longer there, i know there is another one, its almost the same exact thread as the other

-edit- like darren said, kanej was the other malmis confirmed

[KILLCREW3]

wow are you kidding me? now look at malmis activity.

Last Activity: Yesterday 18:54

and the thread with kanej is gone? hmm you guys cant tell me that he didnt do this, because i know u all saw those threads and now they are gone, again.

[Blade]

there were two threads of malmis confirming that someone was trusty, 2 different names selling the same character, the one i got scammed on was when malmis confirmed that the name "balru" was trustworthy, and it is no longer there, i know there is another one, its almost the same exact thread as the other

-edit- like darren said, kanej was the other malmis confirmed

I did see the Balru one but idk whats going on here im not trying to take anyones side becuase im not seeing much proof from anyone of anything...

[KILLCREW3]

I did see the Balru one but idk whats going on here im not trying to take anyones side becuase im not seeing much proof from anyone of anything...



dude the thread u just found is gone too.. and malmis was just on, u cant tell me all suspicion isnt pointing at him

and wat else do u need to see? i have no reason to lie that i got fucked over, and now threads are gone that everyone saw was there, and im out quite a bit of money, and without an account, characters name was "Chosan" if anyone cares

[Satanás]

Can you PM me screenshots or anything to prove that you've been scammed? This would help us.


I saw the thread... in fact.. Killcrew had PM'd me about it, and I told him Malmis is trustworthy...

dunno what's goin on how.


OffTopic: Woah, santanas and Razoor are mods 0.0 congratz dudes.

I've been a mod for some months too, just after Razoor, but thanks man ;)

[Darren]

show them the transaction however you paid and any logs you have

[Blade]

dude the thread u just found is gone too.. and malmis was just on, u cant tell me all suspicion isnt pointing at him

and wat else do u need to see? i have no reason to lie that i got fucked over, and now threads are gone that everyone saw was there, and im out quite a bit of money, and without an account, characters name was "Chosan" if anyone cares

Yes there can be speculation but dose that prove anything?

[AnnoyedCustomer]

Yes there can be speculation but dose that prove anything?

is there any proof that the british queen actually is female? there's life beyond proves, imho. and in fact there is the proof that a mod used his granted powers to remove a thread without any specific reason. I mean, poor Balru, evil malmis deleted his thread, explainw hy menz, he cant sell char now -.-.-.:confused:

[KILLCREW3]

Yes there can be speculation but dose that prove anything?



why dont you try talking to malmis and ask him why he deleted the threads?

[Blade]

why dont you try talking to malmis and ask him why he deleted the threads?

When he comes on MSN i will chat with him

[Razoor]

But still killcrew3 you should be able to get a screen shot of the transaction.

[HavokD]

Well I can remember the thread and the post that Malmis wrote, but yeah, I saw that the thread doesnt exist anymore :rolleyes:

Hope this gets solved for both parts :o

[KILLCREW3]

i sent a screen shot to satanas of the transaction

-edit- and a screenshot of a pm from balru telling me the email to send it to, and to talk on msn with. "Henke_90@live.se" like i said.

[Razoor]

i sent a screen shot to satanas of the transaction

-edit- and a screenshot of a pm from balru telling me the email to send it to, and to talk on msn with. "Henke_90@live.se" like i said.

Ye i saw it on mod board a min later, sorry :o

[KILLCREW3]

any updates in this situation?

[Razoor]

any updates in this situation?

Yes, Balru had a few bad ip matches. need to do some more investigation. And have you managed to charge your money back?

[KILLCREW3]

ok, and no i wasnt able to chargeback.. and u saw how much money i sent.. thats a BIG fuck over

[LostraC]

I actually vouched for Kanej when he first made the thread as I know the owner, but then I was told that he it was just a scam attempt so I deleted the post I made, hope no one got scammed by him cuz of me.

Anyhow, I'll try to catch Malmis on msn. I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt that he would ever scam anyone or vouch for someone he doesn't trust to 100.

[KILLCREW3]

I actually vouched for Kanej when he first made the thread as I know the owner, but then I was told that he it was just a scam attempt so I deleted the post I made, hope no one got scammed by him cuz of me.

Anyhow, I'll try to catch Malmis on msn. I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt that he would ever scam anyone or vouch for someone he doesn't trust to 100.



if you know kanej then you must know balru since they were selling the same exact character (chosan) and malmis confirmed on both that they are 100% trusty and hes their rl friend, so u know him too? and everyone sais that he wouldnt do that and that they highly doubt he would ever, but look at me, he did, or someone he vouched for did. and thats not right for anyone to do let alone a MOD who is highly respected, i guess he thinks he will get away with it since nobody thinks he would do that, probably will if no one does anything about it, but razoor and satanas are investigating it..

[KILLCREW3]

and its a little strange how no one can get ahold of him after this

[Malmis]

As the threads are deleted I can't see what I am supposed to have said, but neither name rings any bell. I haven't been online here in like forever, even less than usual because of some stuff that happened IRL.
I haven't had time to read the entire thread yet, just wanted to tell you that I haven't been involved in any scamming, and I don't know anyone with the MSN in question either.

[AnnoyedCustomer]

As the threads are deleted I can't see what I am supposed to have said, but neither name rings any bell. I haven't been online here in like forever, even less than usual because of some stuff that happened IRL.
I haven't had time to read the entire thread yet, just wanted to tell you that I haven't been involved in any scamming, and I don't know anyone with the MSN in question either.

You won't get away that cheapish. At least I hope so.

[Blade]

You won't get away that cheapish. At least I hope so.

Im looking to this matter Deeply. I just Emailed balckd about a few thing that would help with the investigation.

[LostraC]

if you know kanej then you must know balru since they were selling the same exact character (chosan) and malmis confirmed on both that they are 100% trusty and hes their rl friend, so u know him too? and everyone sais that he wouldnt do that and that they highly doubt he would ever, but look at me, he did, or someone he vouched for did. and thats not right for anyone to do let alone a MOD who is highly respected, i guess he thinks he will get away with it since nobody thinks he would do that, probably will if no one does anything about it, but razoor and satanas are investigating it..

Yes I do know Kanej. I've never heard of this balru guy though, never seen any posts/threads by him nor have I heard of his name until I read this thread.

[KILLCREW3]

@ malmis, all these people saw that you posted on balru's thread selling a 290+ ek saying that hes your rl friend and hes 100% trusty, atleast, plus the other thread of "Kanej" trying to sell the same exact character, and you posting that he was 100% trusty. and i know the person "balru" had access because he logged on for me to show me it was his. and you cant see the threads now because they were deleted. but i highly doubt all these people were just seeing things, including me.

@ lostrac, if that character (chosan) is your friend Kanej, how is it that the person "balru" was selling it and had the account. AND malmis confirmed that they were both his rl friends and 100% trusty, i have no reason to bull shit any of this, and i wouldnt bother going thru all this trouble if it didnt really happen.

[LostraC]

@ lostrac, if that character (chosan) is your friend Kanej, how is it that the person "balru" was selling it and had the account. AND malmis confirmed that they were both his rl friends and 100% trusty, i have no reason to bull shit any of this, and i wouldnt bother going thru all this trouble if it didnt really happen.

Like I said, I have no clue, I've never even heard about "balru" until you mentioned him.

[KILLCREW3]

Like I said, I have no clue, I've never even heard about "balru" until you mentioned him.



then if its your friend who owns "chosan" tell him to give it to me cuz if its his account, then he was the one talking to me, since he went on and showed me it was is his

[Malmis]

@ malmis, all these people saw that you posted on balru's thread selling a 290+ ek saying that hes your rl friend and hes 100% trusty, atleast, plus the other thread of "Kanej" trying to sell the same exact character, and you posting that he was 100% trusty. and i know the person "balru" had access because he logged on for me to show me it was his. and you cant see the threads now because they were deleted. but i highly doubt all these people were just seeing things, including me..

The only way I can see it was posted is if I was hacked, because I, the real Malmis never took part in this shit.
But I have no idea how that would off happened. Changed password now anyways. Blade has as he said contacted Daniel to see some logs and stuff, then we can see what happened.

[xHellsx]

To be fair I would GIVE Malmis my account and wouldn't even be worried.

But we'll see

Nice seeing his DP around on the forum again tho, unfortunetly its for this bullshit :S

[raoul]

im glad that malmis himself isnt part of this:p

[LostraC]

then if its your friend who owns "chosan" tell him to give it to me cuz if its his account, then he was the one talking to me, since he went on and showed me it was is his

The owner is currently on vacations, but if you can provide me with proof that it really was him (the owner of the character), then I'll try to contact him.

[lexxis123]

If i would scamm and i had acces to a moderators account i wouldnt just support a guy.... think about that maybe ?

[KILLCREW3]

@ lostrac, hes on vaca but his character logged in a couple days ago? and before that, the last time he was logged in was may 26th, which was when i made a character to see if it was his and asked him to go online, which he did, Aldo Arka was my character, still the last login was the 26th when he showed me, i know its not much proof of anything but im trying to do anything to help mods figure out wtf happened.

@lexxis, yeah exactly all he did was confirm someone was trusty, dont u think he would go around scamming a lot more people then just one? coulda been done easily. could of pm'd a lot of people about their characters and told them to go first and get all their shit EASILY, since so many people trust him.

and even IF (which is a long stretch) malmis was hacked and the guy was retarded enough to only try to scam one person by confirming they were trusty, i still get fucked out of this? BY TRUSTING A MOD? wow that seems fair as shit to me

but i doubt that happened cause all this shit is very fishy

[Malmis]

@ lostrac, hes on vaca but his character logged in a couple days ago? and before that, the last time he was logged in was may 26th, which was when i made a character to see if it was his and asked him to go online, which he did, Aldo Arka was my character, still the last login was the 26th when he showed me, i know its not much proof of anything but im trying to do anything to help mods figure out wtf happened.

@lexxis, yeah exactly all he did was confirm someone was trusty, dont u think he would go around scamming a lot more people then just one? coulda been done easily. could of pm'd a lot of people about their characters and told them to go first and get all their shit EASILY, since so many people trust him.

and even IF (which is a long stretch) malmis was hacked and the guy was retarded enough to only try to scam one person by confirming they were trusty, i still get fucked out of this? BY TRUSTING A MOD? wow that seems fair as shit to me

but i doubt that happened cause all this shit is very fishy

I know it's wierd, I think so to. I just changed the password to be extra safe, I'm still clueless as to what happened. But I am very sorry for what happened to you, but I assure you that I didn't do it. I hope to find out who did.

[BUg]

Ok...

I saw the thread before it got delete(or something) and I saw Malmis saying he the guy was his real life and he was trustworthy.

Maybe this little info helps:]


Good luck and hope it gets solved;]

[KILLCREW3]

I know it's wierd, I think so to. I just changed the password to be extra safe, I'm still clueless as to what happened. But I am very sorry for what happened to you, but I assure you that I didn't do it. I hope to find out who did.



yeah assure me just like that guy said he assured me you wouldnt say that unless he was 100% trusty, so.. sorry, that means nothing to me, and so wtf does this mean, its over and im still fucked for trusting a mod? thats awesome..

[kvra]

I've never stole when it came to a real trade.

In fact, I did steal 30kk from a poi service back in 2007 (or maybe it was 2008, I don't remember right), but then I still had people buying cash from me ingame as they knew I would delivery it.

If it really happend to a moderator, this one doesn't make all of them a thief.

Anyway, good luck sorting out this matter.

Oh, by the way, there is always the chargeback, even if it has a little delay, you can call the chargeback and get your money back. Just a tip.

[Farsa]

In fact, I did steal 30kk from a poi service back in 2007 (or maybe it was 2008, I don't remember right), but then I still had people buying cash from me ingame as they knew I would delivery it.


That'll be remembered forever lol

[kvra]

That'll be remembered forever lol

Nah, I'm pretty sure they forgot it (or they just try not to remember), as every single 'Paceran Legends' thread on Pacera board lacks of my ex-character name :D

[KILLCREW3]

anything happening with this MODS?....

[Blade]

anything happening with this MODS?....


~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 2:38:06 PM): Hey tehre dude
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 2:38:27 PM): I got to talk to you about somethin and im pretty sure alot of other people have asked you about it aswell
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 2:39:23 PM): Its kinda important man....
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 2:39:56 PM): Seeing as your not responding though
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 2:39:57 PM): http://www.blackdtools.net/showthread.php?p=394197#post394197
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 2:40:06 PM): Message me when you get back
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 8:39:21 PM): Playing Dota
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 8:47:04 PM): Shit, I haven't even been on the forums for like... three months
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 2:49:22 PM): Dose anyone have your account?
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 8:47:31 PM): No
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 2:49:52 PM): About a week ago a guy posted that he was selling a char
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 2:49:56 PM): You posted on it
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 2:50:04 PM): Saying he was your RL and he was trusty
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 2:50:09 PM): 100%
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 2:50:19 PM): That guy scammed a member for 630 USD
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 2:50:29 PM): And then the Thread vanished completly
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 8:48:39 PM): Reading the threads... What's the address for the Mod control panel?
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 2:50:55 PM): www.blackdtools.net/**************
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 8:52:52 PM): Hmm...
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 2:56:57 PM): What do you have to say on this matter? I saw the post with my own eyes that your "Account" posted
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 8:55:35 PM): I haven't been on in like 3 months
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 8:55:38 PM): Atleast
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 8:57:16 PM): *******Talking about personal insodent********
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 2:59:32 PM): You did Tell me abotu that insodent
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 8:57:35 PM): We gotta talk to Daniel and ask him to check chronological IP-logs
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 8:57:55 PM): Or see what's actually been done, maybe my account was hacked, that seems most likely
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 8:58:06 PM): But the password wasn't changed
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 3:02:01 PM): I dont know whats going on man thats why im trying to investigate it
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 9:00:00 PM): Yeah, me no. No other of my accounts have been hacked, and albeit I don't use my uber-password on the BD forums it still isn't *******
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 9:00:02 PM): '*
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 9:00:18 PM): Only one that can really investigate is Daniel...
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 3:02:29 PM): Yea
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 3:03:02 PM): Ill see what i can do about getting him to give me admin acces to check all logs because i know he really dont have the time to look into such things
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 9:01:43 PM): I don't think he'll be too happy with that But it's probarly what's gotta be done.
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 9:04:20 PM): I think what's more interesting is the fact LostraC also vouched for him
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 3:06:56 PM): Lostra is not Swe is he?
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 9:05:04 PM): Yeah he is
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 9:05:07 PM): Lives in Stockholm
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 3:07:46 PM): Hmmmmm
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 3:07:55 PM): Ill do some more IP searching in a bit
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 3:08:14 PM): A little more detailed this time
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 9:06:51 PM): Alright
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 9:07:06 PM): brb
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 3:09:19 PM): sme times tracing all ips can lead to some intresting shit
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 3:09:26 PM): ight
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 9:11:26 PM): Back
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 3:14:53 PM): im emailing blackd
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 3:17:00 PM): I just sent you a copy of the email.
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 9:18:17 PM): "Your loyal servant", almost as good as me when I write e-mails to him, I finish with "humbly yours"
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 3:34:22 PM): xD
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 3:35:56 PM): But scince im "The evil one" it seems to fit me
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 3:59:19 PM): So yea man idk what to do
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 4:00:33 PM): I dont belive that the Scammer email is you though
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 4:00:44 PM): I looked it up on google and i came up with this
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 4:00:46 PM): * Henke_90 at 2005-02-27 16:09:00 HELP! I can only open the movie in vlc, and the text dont work in vlc does someone know how i shall do?? * Henke_90 at 2005-02-27 17:09:00 HELP! I can only open the movie in vlc, and the text dont work in vlc does someone know how i shall do??
~~Blades email~~~ (6/10/2010 4:01:08 PM): For one you dont talk like that and two your more computer literate
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 10:40:14 PM): Yeah
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 10:40:31 PM): Checked up LostraC's IPs?
Malmis | NollNioEttÅttaTvåSjuTreFyraFem (6/10/2010 10:40:50 PM): Sorry it took me so long, I took a nap

[KILLCREW3]

so its as simple as that? i get fucked over that bad from trusting a mods word, and all u have to say is that u were hacked? wow pretty easy for you to get out of it, but i cant get my money back, and i have no character. pretty sweet fuckin deal for me, wish i could just throw money out like that all the time.. so much fun

[Hurriel]

how much did you lose on that character? :s

I feel sorry for you. Such annoying history :s

[Malmis]

so its as simple as that? i get fucked over that bad from trusting a mods word, and all u have to say is that u were hacked? wow pretty easy for you to get out of it, but i cant get my money back, and i have no character. pretty sweet fuckin deal for me, wish i could just throw money out like that all the time.. so much fun

The investigation isn't over yet... But since I didn't do anything wrong, no, I will probarly not be banned or removed as a moderator. But then the investigation will show us what really happened.

[Blade]

so its as simple as that? i get fucked over that bad from trusting a mods word, and all u have to say is that u were hacked? wow pretty easy for you to get out of it, but i cant get my money back, and i have no character. pretty sweet fuckin deal for me, wish i could just throw money out like that all the time.. so much fun

Im still waiting for a reply from blackd

[Ryujin]

In my opinion, trusting someone because someone says they are trustworthy should only be half the deal. You should do some research on the person your trading with and if nothing comes up, you should still be cautious.

However, if you trade DIRECTLY with a moderator, or someone else, you could be less cautious, but however you should never trust anyone 100% unless you personally know them 100%.

I don't believe that Malmis should lose his mod, because even though he may have posted in the thread, you decided the seller was 100% trustworthy, and now you are seeking some kind of revenge/compensation for your own problem.

[KILLCREW3]

In my opinion, trusting someone because someone says they are trustworthy should only be half the deal. You should do some research on the person your trading with and if nothing comes up, you should still be cautious.

However, if you trade DIRECTLY with a moderator, or someone else, you could be less cautious, but however you should never trust anyone 100% unless you personally know them 100%.

I don't believe that Malmis should lose his mod, because even though he may have posted in the thread, you decided the seller was 100% trustworthy, and now you are seeking some kind of revenge/compensation for your own problem.



yep so its all my fault.. ive never traded here before because i cant trust anyone, and the only reason i would is if i bought from a MOD, but i figured that one saying that they are 100% trustworthy, and is their rl friend, is practically the same, since they wouldnt put their rep on the line, and the person actually going on and showing me its his, he never acted like he was in a rush to sell it to me and to fuck me over, like.. im not a retard.. but the one time i do trade here for trusting someone i get fucked..600+ usd. thats how much. and i also only traded because i asked a lot of people about malmis and they told me if hes saying that, then they have to be trusty. "oh id give malmis my char and not be worried" and shit like that.. so yep my bad i must be a dumbass

[Blade]

yep so its all my fault.. ive never traded here before because i cant trust anyone, and the only reason i would is if i bought from a MOD, but i figured that one saying that they are 100% trustworthy, and is their rl friend, is practically the same, since they wouldnt put their rep on the line, and the person actually going on and showing me its his, he never acted like he was in a rush to sell it to me and to fuck me over, like.. im not a retard.. but the one time i do trade here for trusting someone i get fucked..600+ usd. thats how much. and i also only traded because i asked a lot of people about malmis and they told me if hes saying that, then they have to be trusty. "oh id give malmis my char and not be worried" and shit like that.. so yep my bad i must be a dumbass

I never thought of it how Ryujin said but now that i do why should malmis be at blame?

Im not saying this is the end of this im still waiting on a reply to my email from blackd for further looking into this matter

[KILLCREW3]

yeah well have u thought, that even if it comes out as a different ip doesnt mean he couldnt of given his password to someone else and had them do it so he could just say he was hacked.. or he could of just done it himself from a different ip.. because malmis is from sweden.. and i sent it to a swedish bank account.. the person hacking just happen to be swedish too? all the information doesnt add up to him just being hacked and some of you out there have to agree with that.. im gonna be so pissed if this is just passed up as oh he got hacked and theres nothing u can do about it, because i honestly, sincerely think something else is going on besides him just getting hacked and the hacker posting something little like that, and taking the time to go back on and delete his post like he didnt want anyone to see it? like why would it bother a hacker for malmis to get in trouble. COME ON

[Blade]

yeah well have u thought, that even if it comes out as a different ip doesnt mean he couldnt of given his password to someone else and had them do it so he could just say he was hacked.. or he could of just done it himself from a different ip.. because malmis is from sweden.. and i sent it to a swedish bank account.. the person hacking just happen to be swedish too? all the information doesnt add up to him just being hacked and some of you out there have to agree with that.. im gonna be so pissed if this is just passed up as oh he got hacked and theres nothing u can do about it, because i honestly, sincerely think something else is going on besides him just getting hacked and the hacker posting something little like that, and taking the time to go back on and delete his post like he didnt want anyone to see it? like why would it bother a hacker for malmis to get in trouble. COME ON

I know that i was hacked and they used my forum account to say that their program they were posting was virus free and then they hacked some of the members should i have lost my position for their actions?

Why dont you just pipe down for a bit no one knows whats going on. I dont know whats going on nor do any of the other mods. I am waiting on my email back from blackd to see if he grants me special access to look into this matter further but as of right now there is no proof of anything that should strippin malmis of his postion.

So far yes he said someone was trusty and you got scammed here are my questions on that (Do we know for a fact it was malmis? Do we have proof that malmis's account was or was not hacked? Even though the person that scammed you was swedish dose that automaticly make him malmis?)

This matter is not over but until I recive an email from blackd nothing can be done esspecaily to malmis because thats not who the trade was conducted with

[Shadow1]

To tell you the truth, I don't even see how thats possible. He spent 650$? Amiright? He is more worried about getting malmis banned then getting his money, we dont even know if he sent the 650$ do we..?

[KILLCREW3]

To tell you the truth, I don't even see how thats possible. He spent 650$? Amiright? He is more worried about getting malmis banned then getting his money, we dont even know if he sent the 650$ do we..?



no your not right, it was 623.~ and yes they do know i sent the money, the ss is on the mods forum board, and im not trying to fucking get malmis banned how is that going to solve my problems? it doesnt get me my money back, im just stating the facts of whats happened and none of it makes sence, and i have tried to chargeback why wouldnt i be worried about getting the money back

[AnnoyedCustomer]

So far yes he said someone was trusty and you got scammed here are my questions on that (Do we know for a fact it was malmis? Do we have proof that malmis's account was or was not hacked? Even though the person that scammed you was swedish dose that automaticly make him malmis?)

No offence but a Mod who's retarded enough to get hacked his account resulting in a guy losing 500 euros should defuckingfinetly lose his position just for idiocy's sake. It's Malmis responsibility after all to make sure his account data is safe. NO MATTER whether Malmis intentionally supported the scam or was hacked for real. Even tho I personally don't believe that guy a shit. If he had really been hacked, hacker could've ripped many more people off their cash. Why would he leave it at confirming just one guy trustworthy?

[Ryujin]

So far yes he said someone was trusty and you got scammed here are my questions on that (Do we know for a fact it was malmis? Do we have proof that malmis's account was or was not hacked? Even though the person that scammed you was swedish dose that automaticly make him malmis?)

No offence but a Mod who's retarded enough to get hacked his account resulting in a guy losing 500 euros should defuckingfinetly lose his position just for idiocy's sake. It's Malmis responsibility after all to make sure his account data is safe. NO MATTER whether Malmis intentionally supported the scam or was hacked for real. Even tho I personally don't believe that guy a shit. If he had really been hacked, hacker could've ripped many more people off their cash. Why would he leave it at confirming just one guy trustworthy?

I stopped reading at the "It is his responsibility to keep his account safe.." part. There are many other ways to get your computer infected than just by downloading things. Who knows, he could have tried playing a java game, that had a drive-by on it and got infected. And actually, if you are at least somewhat bit computer literate, you would be able to find exploits in the forums and gain moderator/admin passwords. But you would also have to know how to crack salted md5 passwords. But I'm not going further into that subject.

Maybe the hacker thought it would go unnoticed if he just confirmed one person trustworthy, or he didn't have anything else to "sell", since the person who scammed the OP actually had access to a 294 EK.

@OP
The only way to check and see if Malmis @ the person selling the character have any relations would be to check and see if at least one of their IP's match. If that doesn't happen, then I doubt there is anything that can be done.

Also, if you were dealing with such a large sum of money AND it was your first time trading, why not tell the kid to use Malmis as a middleman for the trade, so you could at least have his legit MSN, or have proof that he was involved in the trade. Even if you had been using any moderator as a middleman, at least some of your problems could have been avoided.

Most scammers will tell you they don't want to use a middleman, or will try to use a fake msn to be a middleman. (another thing to watch for)

[AnnoyedCustomer]

I stopped reading at the "It is his responsibility to keep his account safe.." part. There are many other ways to get your computer infected than just by downloading things. Who knows, he could have tried playing a java game, that had a drive-by on it and got infected. And actually, if you are at least somewhat bit computer literate, you would be able to find exploits in the forums and gain moderator/admin passwords. But you would also have to know how to crack salted md5 passwords. But I'm not going further into that subject.




bullshit from first to last word. firstly, it's still due to his responsibility if he gets hacked and other injured by that, no fucking matter whether it was his fault or not that he got hacked. fault is not = responsibility. (u have ur blessed gun of doom which u've been granted for service for ur country stolen and someone uses its uber powers to shoot down coupla 5 years old and rob a bank, ur not responsible ?_?)and if it actually was that easy to hack everyone everywhere in every forum on the world, why is that malmis is the first mod here to get "hacked".

AND must be very big coincidence that malmis test out new java game and the scripter of the java game also plays tibia, has lvl 290 ek and wants to sell it on this forum. menz, world is small, no??

[Blade]

bullshit from first to last word. firstly, it's still due to his responsibility if he gets hacked and other injured by that, no fucking matter whether it was his fault or not that he got hacked. fault is not = responsibility. (u have ur blessed gun of doom which u've been granted for service for ur country stolen and someone uses its uber powers to shoot down coupla 5 years old and rob a bank, ur not responsible ?_?)and if it actually was that easy to hack everyone everywhere in every forum on the world, why is that malmis is the first mod here to get "hacked".

AND must be very big coincidence that malmis test out new java game and the scripter of the java game also plays tibia, has lvl 290 ek and wants to sell it on this forum. menz, world is small, no??

Reread my last post.

[Satanás]

blackd was already contacted by Blade, just wait some more time.

@Mods: Check modforums I got a little question about something. (Not related to this topic.)

[KILLCREW3]

i was thinking the same exact thing annoyedcustomer was.. even IF malmis got hacked the person just happen to play tibia and have a high level and wanted to sell it here? seriously wat are the odds.. lol. AND right when his character ran out of premium time and "went on vacation", sais LostraC on like page 6 of this thread, seeing he knows the owner of the account, then takes the time go back on delete wat hes done, and my threads before were deleted about this, before i made this one, i know im repeating myself but seems like thats what i have to do to try to have people make sence of this.. think about it.. what are the odds?

[Ryujin]

bullshit from first to last word. firstly, it's still due to his responsibility if he gets hacked and other injured by that, no fucking matter whether it was his fault or not that he got hacked. fault is not = responsibility. (u have ur blessed gun of doom which u've been granted for service for ur country stolen and someone uses its uber powers to shoot down coupla 5 years old and rob a bank, ur not responsible ?_?)and if it actually was that easy to hack everyone everywhere in every forum on the world, why is that malmis is the first mod here to get "hacked".

AND must be very big coincidence that malmis test out new java game and the scripter of the java game also plays tibia, has lvl 290 ek and wants to sell it on this forum. menz, world is small, no??

Nah, I doubt he got drive-by'd, That was just another example of getting hacked without downloading something.
I'd say the easiest way to pwn most forums would be to access the mod cp, get the md5, desalt it,. etc, im not going into detail about that. Anywho, if you were to do that, you would have access to mod passwords.

So they might have only had Malmis' password, or they had more and decided to only use one because it would look less fishy.

[Crossfire]

Nah, I doubt he got drive-by'd, That was just another example of getting hacked without downloading something.
I'd say the easiest way to pwn most forums would be to access the mod cp, get the md5, desalt it,. etc, im not going into detail about that. Anywho, if you were to do that, you would have access to mod passwords.

So they might have only had Malmis' password, or they had more and decided to only use one because it would look less fishy.



But.. I like salt =/

Not too much though... who would Desalt shit? That would make things taste worse.



<insert your laughter> plz?

[Ryujin]

But.. I like salt =/

Not too much though... who would Desalt shit? That would make things taste worse.



<insert your laughter> plz?

:(
I really do hope someone around here knows what a 'salt' is in the context of md5 passwords.

[Blade]

:(
I really do hope someone around here knows what a 'salt' is in the context of md5 passwords.

Don't worry I do.

[Malmis]

I do too... But we can see more logs as soon as Daniel answers, so we'll soon find out I hope.

[Eradi]

I do too... But we can see more logs as soon as Daniel answers, so we'll soon find out I hope.

Logs? All u need to do is to go to a proxy site, login, make a post and no1 can know it's you. so i don't think the logs will be really useable

[Blade]

Logs? All u need to do is to go to a proxy site, login, make a post and no1 can know it's you. so i don't think the logs will be really useable

Well then please mister know it all what else do we have to go on?

[xyax]

I really think malmis did it, just the way his chat log went " i havent been on blackd in a while" or something like that, and also he prolly just logged into a proxy to scam.

[Webber]

I really think malmis did it, just the way his chat log went " i havent been on blackd in a while" or something like that, and also he prolly just logged into a proxy to scam.

then you obviously havent been here long, malmis hasnt been here in longer then a while, its been like 4 months since his previous posts

[KILLCREW3]

then you obviously havent been here long, malmis hasnt been here in longer then a while, its been like 4 months since his previous posts



unless you want to count him posting that a scammer is 100% trusty, because obviously, everyone saw that, but he was hacked right?

[Crossfire]

Don't worry I do.


I do too... But we can see more logs as soon as Daniel answers, so we'll soon find out I hope.



They got my back! rofl

[Blade]

After digging around i noticed a few interesting things but until blackd gets back to me i cant really be sure on anything

[kvra]

CHARGEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK. capsftw

[Luzorur]

chargebaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack. Capsftw

boooooonesssstormmmmmm!!!!!

[KILLCREW3]

so i see blackd either doesnt care enough about suspisions on his mods scamming people, or.. just doesnt care..

this is obviously fucking going no where and probably what the scammer expected to happen, since no one gives a shit unless it happends to them

[Malmis]

so i see blackd either doesnt care enough about suspisions on his mods scamming people, or.. just doesnt care..

this is obviously fucking going no where and probably what the scammer expected to happen, since no one gives a shit unless it happends to them

I'll try to get in touch with Blade and see how it goes, I haven't heard anything. I'm sorry for your loss but I am not involved in this at all. We can only wait until Daniel helps Blade with the investigation.

[Razoor]

Blackd probly got some reason why he haven't respond to blade's email yet. And i don't understand why you wouldn't be able to chargeback.

[KILLCREW3]

haha wow. this is just retarded,hes obviously not responding, and for a reason too. this forum is going downhill fast

[GuRR]

I read some posts and if I'm not wrong someone said that Malmis is Kanej and balru? I dont know about Malmis nor Balru, but I know alot about Kanej and he has been scamming people from time to time since 2007, I remember he scammed my friend on his char on Eternia or smth back in 2007-2008. But some mod backed him up and my friend couldnt do shit. It really suprises me to still hear about Kanej.. He should have been banned from these forums long time ago but I guess there will always be corrupt people!

(Sorry if I had got it wrong about Malmis being kanej!)

[Demolic]

lol this draws comparisons to the time I was scammed by some guy named 'Rey' who was aparently a saint on this forum and knew blackd well, and for that no1 believed me :(

[iBotzer]

I wonder why Malmis is so active all of a sudden now,
Wasn't he inactive before the scam took place?
Now he's all active again?

Not trying to say he's a scammer but just a curious
question..

Hmmm..

[kvra]

I wonder why Malmis is so active all of a sudden now,
Wasn't he inactive before the scam took place?
Now he's all active again?

Not trying to say he's a scammer but just a curious
question..

Hmmm..

I've always been reading the forums even though I'm inactive. I just don't feel like posting. Might happen to him aswell, and I'm pretty sure someone warned him in any kind of messenger about what happened, thus making him feel like defending himself.

Anyway, I wonder why the guy who supposely got robbed by Malmis hasn't asked paypal for a chargeback.

I guess 500+ USD is worth at least a phone call to try and solve it (and I mean, calling paypal - if there is any number).

I would do it even for less...

[iBotzer]

Yeah all he needs to do is call his credit card company and make a chargeback.
Thats what I did when some kid decided not to give me my acc I payed for.

[Blade]

Just to let yall know im still waiting on blackd i emailed him again....

[aaaa]

OP check pm

[Seisuke]

hows this going?
and why not chargebak for $623 transaction?

[EDLover]

Then,how this ends?

[KILLCREW3]

ok wow.. for those who keep saying why dont i chargeback.. on paypal it sais u have to notify your credit card company, i did (visa), they said only my local bank can deal with that, i went to my bank and they said all they can do is give me a phone number to call to get more information about the "company" (thats what they said) who sold me the merchandise, and i explained that it had to do with a game (of course feeling like an idiot), and they said thats what they can do. why wouldnt i try to chargeback that much money. and i think its pretty wierd how blackd hasnt answered his own mods emails for over a month especially when someone is accusing one of them of scamming. unless he knows about it too and doesnt want to say anything.. because remember.. my password was changed after i started my first 2 threads about this.. and those threads were deleted (not by me). "Kanej" is "Balru", to clear that up, or rl friends, (be nice if a mod could check those ips btw, dont know why you havent) because they both posted the same exact thread selling the same char, and on both threads there was "Malmis" saying that they were trusty.

[iBotzer]

Well when I got scammed for 120$ I had same problems,
I called paypal and they said I cant open a dispute and
they closed the dispute option for me so I cant dispute
the charge, I called CC company and it took a while
Yeah they give you a number to call, once you call that
number there will be a guy asking what happend and you
have to wait for your next bill to come for the money to be
back

[Blade]

ok wow.. for those who keep saying why dont i chargeback.. on paypal it sais u have to notify your credit card company, i did (visa), they said only my local bank can deal with that, i went to my bank and they said all they can do is give me a phone number to call to get more information about the "company" (thats what they said) who sold me the merchandise, and i explained that it had to do with a game (of course feeling like an idiot), and they said thats what they can do. why wouldnt i try to chargeback that much money. and i think its pretty wierd how blackd hasnt answered his own mods emails for over a month especially when someone is accusing one of them of scamming. unless he knows about it too and doesnt want to say anything.. because remember.. my password was changed after i started my first 2 threads about this.. and those threads were deleted (not by me). "Kanej" is "Balru", to clear that up, or rl friends, (be nice if a mod could check those ips btw, dont know why you havent) because they both posted the same exact thread selling the same char, and on both threads there was "Malmis" saying that they were trusty.

Kinda funny how you say why dont we check ips well my friend i have been befor you even made that comment...


So far i have found Some ip matches But they all lead to proxys execpt for one that leads to a webserver with FTP properties Which im wondering if it is not a tusnami overhost server that malmis got infect with and in which his account got hacked......

But as of right now without blackd responding to me i cant check the things i need to check....

I do belive something fishy is going on but i do not know what it is.

Im not sure if malmis is in it on purpos or not but if blackd would reply to me i would know more of what i need for the investigation and dont worrie i havent forgotten about this matter its just not much i can do unless blackd responds back to me.....

Im sorry im really trying to close up this investigation........... there is nothing i can do at the moment though until blackd dose something for me......

[Outkastd]

this thread was a real read and a hald but well worth the knowledge. i'd have never thought of a mods forum name to be hacked and this type of scenario to unfold.

@ OP: i hope everything works out mate. thats a lot of cash :mad:

[raoul]

Dont you ever forget, you cant trust ANYONE as soon as the money is to much or the feeling to 'thief' to big your fuckedupbigtime:(

hope you get your money back

[evilsean]

i agree raoul. i feel sorry for you man i know the feeling :(

[KILLCREW3]

soo... finally (actually) got my money back so "balru" and whoever else was involved in scamming me can go suck a big fat one, i still want to know wtf happened though....

[AnnoyedCustomer]

soo... finally (actually) got my money back so "balru" and whoever else was involved in scamming me can go suck a big fat one, i still want to know wtf happened though....

i'm really happy to hear that.

[kvra]

i'm really happy to hear that.

So am I. I'm so glad to hear that a scammer is getting fucked up :D

[raoul]

Still we should watch out, if any scammer can get on A account of a mod we got serieus problems here. imaging blackdhimself gets hacked...

[iBotzer]

Good to hear you get your money back
Paypal never fails :P

Haha j/k

[AnnoyedCustomer]

Still we should watch out, if any scammer can get on A account of a mod we got serieus problems here. imaging blackdhimself gets hacked...

i dont believe any mod acc hacked story, its certain mod himself we oughta take care of, IMHO

[raoul]

than there should be made an punishment..

[Razoor]

than there should be made an punishment..

Are you serious? blade has mentioned atleast 5 times that we have no proof to go on. So we should ban every mod and every user we think might be a scammer?

[raoul]

what else you want, see mods to be able to scam?!

[Razoor]

what else you want, see mods to be able to scam?!

Did i ever say that? no. What i said is that we not got enought proof to give out any punshiment. We are still waiting for Blackd to respond to Blade's email so he can get more research on the whole thing. Only thing we know so far is that the ip match malmis got with Balru is a proxy ip (Hidemyass.com) wish a few other members also matched with as they have used the same site to hide their ips when logging on to the forum for some reason. And as blade mentioned one of balrus ips leads to a webserver with FTP properties, and he also mentions that it could be a tusnami overhost server that malmis got infect with.

[raoul]

nvmnvmnvm:]

[AnnoyedCustomer]

lets just have a clear summary of the facts and just the facts.

1. guy advertises to sell 290 ek.
2. malmis posts he is trustworthy
3. guy scams as a result of that a guy for 500+ euros (which he luckily managed to get back now)
4. malmis (who else couldve been it?) deletes the thread where he stated the scammer was trustworthy.
AND THIS IMHO PROVES IT WAS THE REAL MALMIS, WHAT HACKER WOULD CARE ABOUT DESTROYING THE REP OF A HACKED MOD ACCOUNT THAT WILL BE RECOVERED SOONER OR LATER ANYWAY AND THAT HE ONLY HACKED FOR THE PURPOSE OF SELLING THIS ONE CHAR AND THATS WHAT HE IS SUPOSED TO HAVE DONE INNIT? CUZ HE DIDNT TRY ANY OTHER SCAMS. that guys is simply logic.

I haven't been hacked A SINGLE FUCKING TIME IN 8 YEARS OF PLAYING TIBIA AND BROWSING THE NET and now Malmis gets hacked just at the right time a guy wants to sell his 290 ek and this hacker by pure coincidence is the seller himself or a friend of him and helps him with the scam and just this one scam and not 20 more scams? I BEG YOU, I HONESTLY BEG YOU. This is all so hilarious, it hurts to watch it.

My opinion: Malmis tried to make his long-built-reputation for 500 euros, and I can understand that very well. No fucking forum moderatorship on earth is worth more than 500 easily-gained euros. So all this trustworthybullshit can be shoved up an ass that cares because everyone who sits and tries to think straight for a minute would realize that Malmis just did a choice nearly everyone else would've taken as well. He certainly right now laughes his ass irl that he apparently even gets away with it.

[raoul]

cant agree with u more. its getting retarded how mod's can use their super powers to ban the fair guys..

[Razoor]

lets just have a clear summary of the facts and just the facts.

1. guy advertises to sell 290 ek.
2. malmis posts he is trustworthy
3. guy scams as a result of that a guy for 500+ euros (which he luckily managed to get back now)
4. malmis (who else couldve been it?) deletes the thread where he stated the scammer was trustworthy.
AND THIS IMHO PROVES IT WAS THE REAL MALMIS, WHAT HACKER WOULD CARE ABOUT DESTROYING THE REP OF A HACKED MOD ACCOUNT THAT WILL BE RECOVERED SOONER OR LATER ANYWAY AND THAT HE ONLY HACKED FOR THE PURPOSE OF SELLING THIS ONE CHAR AND THATS WHAT HE IS SUPOSED TO HAVE DONE INNIT? CUZ HE DIDNT TRY ANY OTHER SCAMS. that guys is simply logic.

I haven't been hacked A SINGLE FUCKING TIME IN 8 YEARS OF PLAYING TIBIA AND BROWSING THE NET and now Malmis gets hacked just at the right time a guy wants to sell his 290 ek and this hacker by pure coincidence is the seller himself or a friend of him and helps him with the scam and just this one scam and not 20 more scams? I BEG YOU, I HONESTLY BEG YOU. This is all so hilarious, it hurts to watch it.

My opinion: Malmis tried to make his long-built-reputation for 500 euros, and I can understand that very well. No fucking forum moderatorship on earth is worth more than 500 easily-gained euros. So all this trustworthybullshit can be shoved up an ass that cares because everyone who sits and tries to think straight for a minute would realize that Malmis just did a choice nearly everyone else would've taken as well. He certainly right now laughes his ass irl that he apparently even gets away with it.

What you say makes sense but still, do you think malmis would make a 500 euros scam by paypal after being a mod on this forum for so long and seen about all charge backs thats been done? that in the other hand doesn't make sense to me.

[HavokD]

Im glad that the guy recovered his cash, even tho this isnt solved yet.

What I find really mean, is that mods try to protect other mods, but they find it easy to point fingers and call suspects from the other normal posters like us.

PD: Yeah, Ive found people isnt ready to trade with me since that post that said I was the scammer, even with people that trusted me before... It kinda fucked over the little reputation I had...

[KILLCREW3]

im glad atleast a couple people have been following this besides mods because what annoyedcustomer said is what ive pretty much been saying the whole time, and like he said, it makes perfect sence that it was actually malmis, and he didnt get hacked, the way they went about the scam made it pretty clear (deleting the threads, only 1 scam, would work because of high rep) and someone hacking a mod account knowing to go to this site and just happen to want to "sell" a 294 ek. i fully agree with annoyedcustomer, he knows how to think about it in a practacle way

[frog]

What you say makes sense but still, do you think malmis would make a 500 euros scam by paypal after being a mod on this forum for so long and seen about all charge backs thats been done? that in the other hand doesn't make sense to me.

yes, malmis has been mod on this forum for i believe 2 years now. during the last year he basically hasn't been active at all. so it's fully logical for him to make 500 euro off a forum he has no interest in anymore. there is nothing about this case that doesn't make sense.

that being said, malmis used to be a friend of mine and our "friendship" just kind of faded with inactivity. i'm not going to say some cliche about how i can't imagine him doing this, because not doing this is what wouldn't make sense. it all depends on where your priorities are, and what you care about. and in malmis' case, i have no idea as we haven't spoken in well over 2 years.

[KILLCREW3]

yep, and wierd blackd doesnt respond to blade for over a month about his mods scamming but he responds to peoples email that buy gold from him, strange

[xyax]

Agreed blackd dont care about this forum anymore. Only his "gold"

[Blink182]

Guess who's back?!?! Just for today though. I was tryign to reach someone but i failed doing so. However this thread looked funny so i read all the pages.
I have realized this so far:


Buyer of the character is kinda stupid. I cant imagine how anyone would send someone 630$ bucks without having his phone number, address. I would even ask for ID. We are not talking about 30 bucks. Another thing why didnt you make you sure you could chargeback if this went wrong.

Mod who vouched for the guy. Well after reading the posts of the people who said that saw your reply on that guys post, if you got actually hacked, teh hacker must be retarded. I mean if i was a thief and i had a moderators account teh first thing i would do is, try to make my own trades and scam people. I wouldnt even bother on vouching for someone or bla bla. Maybe you did vouche for that person, because you thought he was legit. But then you saw, he scammd the other guy, and you realized you were in big trouble. That could have happened, thats why people shouldnt buy for anyone unless they are RLS. They also say you deleted that guys thread, well as far as i know users can delete their own threads, so you were not the only one who could have deleted "balrus" thread, because he could have done it himself.

Well thats it and i guess i will be gone for a while again!

See you all someday!

[Malmis]

I'm glad you got your money back.
If Blackd thinks I'm involved I will step down from Super Moderator volountarily, even tough I had nothing to do with this.
I'm sorry that you some of you think we moderators just protect eachother's backs and even more sorry old friends think I would do this.
Even though I'm retired I'm proud of being a moderator here, and would not jeopardize by participating in a scam, not even for $600.

This is the last from me on this subject, now it's up to whatever Blade and others can find and what BlackD thinks about this.